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最近又把漫畫拿出來重溫一遍了 國中的時候覺得哇好酷好帥 高中的時候覺得奈奈怎麼這樣三心二意 大學的時候覺得作者太壞了吧幹麻讓蓮領便當 這次我出社會了再看,我覺得作者每個橋段都是精心設計的,或許她已經把人物刻畫複雜到她沒辦法再負荷接下來的劇情。... 奈奈的轉變其實是最大的... 看著奈奈成長我超級感動啊!
2026年3月時点休載状態の名作『NANA』を久しぶりに読み返した。連載当時もドハマりしていたのだが、あらためて読み返すとやはり名作だなと思う。... 私は矢沢あい先生のもうひとつの作品『Paradise Kiss』のエンディングにとても感銘を受けているからである。ジョージと別れちゃうなんてそんな、、と思わせてからのあのエンディングを読んだ感覚は一生ものだと思っている。青春時代の恋愛なんてほとんど別れで終わる中で、あのエンディングに救われた人は多いのではないかと思う。
Для меня манга «Нана» стала особенной. Открыла новые взгляды на природу человеческих отношений, преданность своему делу и уникальность наших душ. Надеюсь, Ай еще даст нам хотя бы несколько подсказок о судьбе Наны и Хачи.
9 ปีที่อาจารย์ เขียนเรื่อง NANA 21 เล่ม 9 ปีแห่งการรอคอย เล่ม 22... สำหรับเรา ทุกความรู้สึกมันถูกกลั่นจนเหลือแค่คำว่า 'คิดถึงชะมัด' ค่ะ
自分の人生が、彼女の作品たちに、強く強く支えられ続けていたことを痛感しました。特に20代前半、選択に迷うときは、この6〜7巻(最終巻)を何度も読んでは決断する勇気をもらっていました。そして、何度も救われてきました。いつの間にか自分の人生の指針にさせてもらっていたとは。それを今回読み返して気づき、思わず笑っちゃいました。矢沢あい先生が描く物語は、”人生は悩んでもいいのだ”と思わせてくれる作品たちです。
This anime and manga changed me tremendously. I am only 16, and I started watching Nana June of 2023, after the hardest breakup of my life. (I’ll spare you the details). Watching Nana has taught me that it’s okay to grieve and move on. It showed me the things you SHOULD and SHOULD NOT do. It also taught me what it meant to have a true friend. And it also taught me that friends can grow apart at times. Me being in high school, this anime hit so close to home. ... Then, in October of 2023, my great grandma died, whom I was very close with. Ironically, not even a week after she died, I read the chapter where Ren dies. This was extremely comforting to me. Knowing someone else shares that pain of grieving helped me emensly.
最近なんとなくNANAを読み返した。読んでも完結しないから読み返すのずっと避けてたけどなんとなく1巻読んだらめちゃくちゃ面白くて最新刊まで全部読み切った。... とにかく30代の今改めて読み返したら20代で読んだときより面白かった。とはいえ登場人物の誰にも共感できないけど。どうすれば全員ハッピーエンドな感じに完結できるのかなあとか考えたけど、レンが退場してしまった時点で無理なんだよな~
The first time I watched Nana was when I was 15 years old. It was also the only time I've read the manga. Then at 19 years old and recently at 23 years old. Regardless of age, it's an enjoyable anime but as you get older, perspectives or opinions on certain characters change drastically. One of the ones that surprised myself the most was about Junko. The first time I thought that Junko was a good friend by protecting the feelings of Nana Hachi but now that I'm seeing her again, i realized that it wasn't the best friendship for Nana.
人生に影響と幸福をもたらしてくれた漫画家さんのひとりである矢沢あい先生。人間の成せる技なの?と思う美しい世界観。画力のみならず先生の漫画はどれも心ぐらんぐらんに揺さぶられるストーリー。そしてその後の人生が気になってしまうキャラ達。私の宝物だった世界。憧れて憧れて何度も夢見た世界。彼女達は私達とおなじようにどこかでちゃんと生きてる。本当にそう思えるくらい漫画とかのつくりものの世界とは思えないくらい存在がリアルに感じられる。忘れていた幼い私が顔を出した。ねぇ、覚えてる?って。自分を信じること、周りを愛すること、明日を夢見ること、当たり前を自分に許可して。。。大人になってまた読みたくなってアメーバ漫画?アメブロの漫画で購入したわぁ〜。このレンのセリフは私に大きな影響を与えてくれた。愛も愛するも愛されるもなんもわからんかってただただ相手を自分のものにしたい出来ないかもしれない不安そーゆーエゴを旦那君に向けていて苦しかった時を幾度も超えてきてこのセリフがストンときた。この人が私以外の誰かと一緒になっても彼のしあわせを願える優しさ、強さがほしいと思えるようになったんよなぁ〜。世界中のファンの願い続きをいつまでも、待っています。産みの親である先生が描きたくても描けないくらい先生の世界にもNANAが生きてる。生きすぎてるのかな。私達はただただ、待つのみ。
知乎高赞上有一句话,“都说nana是少女漫,少女才看不懂呢”,我深感认同。第一次看nana的时候十八岁,母胎单身少女。当时只觉得娜娜好帅,里面的歌好听,但作为主要剧情的人物间的感情纠葛,只觉得拖沓又无聊,角色们一个个婆婆妈妈、无病呻吟。十二年后,我成了三十岁已婚妇女。才明白nana讲的是理想与现实,情感与欲望,或者说人生本身。看似造了一个梦,但又把梦打碎,把里面黑暗的东西给你看,给主角们安排了一个个初看意难平、但细想又合理的结局,告诉你:人生不会那么顺利哟,但还是要继续前进。多年后再看,想最先讨论的角色,居然是那个曾经哀其不幸怒其不争的奈奈。要我说,奈奈是个大智若愚的人。看似软弱又糊涂,其实坚韧又清醒。前期确实有点废,天真幼稚、得过且过、自我中心、花钱大手大脚、工作态度极其敷衍,但她是有成长的。当了小三,明白对方不爱自己后,很快就能吸取教训、放下过去;和章司分手后,懂得了照顾伴侣的想法和需求;做了促销员后也在认真工作,不再乱花钱;和巧断掉炮友关系,决心和伸夫好好交往、好好生活。奈奈的优点和缺点都十分明显,每个女性都能在她身上多多少少找到共同点。她的人设很真实,人非圣贤,孰能无过呢。特别是奈奈在出版社那段打工人生活,相信在大城市漂泊的白领女性都能有共鸣吧。
這幾年來看了真的不知道多少次,就像大家說的每到一個年齡看這部的感想都會大大的不同以及改觀。以前很小的時候看只覺得 哇~這部的畫風好喜歡而且很少看到的題材跟故事然後常常搞不懂到底誰愛誰... 以前不喜歡奈奈因為覺得奈奈很盲目的去追求愛情,可是現在卻覺得,是Takumi讓她找回自己的感覺... 看了心情真的好沈重跟著故事一起哭到不行有人可以理解哭完心情很沈重的感覺嗎
Moi je suis Lola, mais toutes mes amis m'ont surnommé Hachi.. (Coeur d'artichaut il parait...). Enfin j'ai 18 ans, et je regarde Nana depuis que je suis en 5ème. C'est mon tout premier manga anime ou écrit. C'est beaucoup d'émotions quand j'y pense... Nana m'a beaucoup aidé quand j'avais besoin. C'est aussi ce que j'aime regarder et lire le plus.
NANA ซึ่งเป็นการ์ตูนที่ถ่ายทอดถึงความรัก ความเจ็บปวด การใช้ชีวิต ความเป็นจริงที่เกิดตามรอบๆตัวเรา... เพราะได้รู้จักทุกมุมและเข้าใจความรักในรูปแบบหลักหลาย จากเรื่องนี้ และมีจริงๆในชีวิตเรา
矢沢あい先生の漫画とともに小学校〜思春期、20代前半までを過ごした。なかでも、何度も何度もコミックを読み返したのが『天使なんかじゃない』。大人になった今読み返してもたくさんの感情を感じさせてくれる。翠ちゃん達に憧れる子供だったあの時からあっという間に時が経ち、翠ちゃん達の倍以上の年齢になった私はそれでもまだ、聖高校のみんなから力をもらいそんなことを思う。
人生で初めてハマったものだと思います。 おそらく漫画家に限らず、誰かの「ファン」という感覚を持ったのも、矢沢あいが初めてのことだと思う。 コミックはもちろん、イラスト集も買って四六時中眺めていた。 当時の「りぼん」には、もっと小学校低学年向けの漫画もあったし、もっと大人っぽい漫画も載ってたけど、「天ない」は友達みたいに親しみやすくて、でもキラキラと魅力的で、”等身大”と”憧れ”のバランスがちょうどよかったのかなと思う。 その後、ご近所物語、下弦の月、Paradise kiss、NANAと、自分の成長とぴったり合わせるように矢沢作品の対象年齢も上がっていき、わたしの人生、矢沢あいはいつでも隣にいました。 その中でも、選ぶとしたら「NANA」です。
I was 19 in 2006 when the anime first came out - I also had several volumes of the Tokyopop manga. I loved the series more for the aesthetic and Ai Yazawa-ness of it. 19 year old me didn’t really “get” the characters at the time - their relationship dynamics perplexed me. I was a sheltered anime nerd. I had no frame of reference. I rewatched it again at 28 - really enjoyed it. The characters were a lot more relatable and I really felt for Hachi where I found her almost annoying before. And now at 36, this series hits different. it’s like I’m rewatching my own twenties with the benefit of hindsight. I swear I had multiple friends who was in some way like a Nana cast member. I also swear I’ve seen all these toxic relationship dynamics play out IRL with real people. The cheating; the toxic on again off again stuff; the victim-blaming from “friends;” the predatory shit that gets enabled and hand waved until someone finally grows up enough to have their “oh shit” moment. I GET Hachi’s pragmatic choices now without judgement - sure Takumi is a malignant Narcissist but as long as she manages him he’s predictable and stable. Nana wanted a “strong” masculine presence to basically take care of her. Takumi WILL do that. There was a not-small part of me that WAS Hachi and the mirror was uncomfortable. A mark of a good piece of fiction is that you can revisit it at different life stages and get something new. Nana is like that.
I first watched the anime when I was a freshman in high school and in a relationship with another girl. I saw my relationship in nana and hachis dynamic. I Related so much to Hachi. I even tried to write a fanfiction about them to try and finish their story. When I broke up with that girl, I even rewatched the show to cope. The stuff the Nanas said at that beginning of each episode were what i felt in my heart but couldn’t put into words. Now im in college, and although i haven’t thought much about nana in a few years, my brother recently bought me the manga for Christmas and i got into it again. Now Im rewatching it for 3rd time with a slightly more mature perspective.
NANA é uma obra muito importante pra mim. Os personagens que a Ai Yazawa cria são muito humanos em suas alegrias e dores e me reconheci na Nana mais do que eu gostaria até. Hoje, mais adulta, compreendo melhor o por que disso e consigo me dedicar a curar minhas dores e aproveitar melhor minhas alegrias.
Nana劇情的渲染力可以這麼強,部份原因大概是來自於作者矢澤愛對故事時間線的安排... 這些回眸的記憶,囊括著欣喜、希望、悲傷、惆悵、成長、省思、心疼、歉疚,以及那越疊越深無止盡的想念,且無法自拔,最終穿梭在身上每一個角落。
每次重看NANA,心境都不一樣,雖然還是一樣會笑著哭、哭著笑… 小時候好喜歡娜娜的帥氣,長大才懂她的逞強有多心酸,真的超心疼她🥹 曾經覺得奈奈愛得太隨便,後來才明白那是因為她太缺愛了… 故事沒變,但我變了。每個時期的自己,看見的都是不一樣的NANA,原來我身邊的那段關係,也是這樣跌跌撞撞走過了。對我來說,NANA就像一面鏡子,照出我心裡的傷口,所以才覺得這麼深有共鳴吧
Although I first watched Nana in college when I was 19 or 20 and while it did impact me, revisiting the series in my late 20s did so much more. Ai Yazawa just has a way of beautifully writing such human characters that I’ve yet to find in other anime or manga. Nana’s characters are so special to me and I love how so many characters struggle to deal with the loneliness in their lives. Hachi, Nana and Reira are some of the biggest examples of this for me. They all have their flaws and make mistakes as they try to live their lives. “It’s hard to be human” is something the series exemplifies so well.
I watched it during my freshman year of high school and thought the characters were cool and it was way more mature than the high school romance anime I had seen up to that point. Now that I’m older it’s surprising to reflect on how many times I’ve been in these different character’s positions. It made me love the anime so much more, and I’m excited for you to get to that point as well :)
This story left a mark on me. It made me realize that need isn't always love, and I was also deeply affected by several characters and their struggles. Emotional loneliness, questionable desires, wrong decisions, regret; all of that and more is portrayed in this story.
Now I'm 21, the same age as most of the characters in this story. I rewatched the show this year and read the whole manga, and wow. This story means even more to me now than it already did 10 years ago. As an adult, I can relate so much more to the characters and feel for each of their stories so much deeper. I was especially surprised at how much I relate to Hachi at this point in my life... As I've gotten older, I've dated around, made mistakes, fell in and out of love, dealt with SA, and been in shitty relationships/situationships. Like Hachi, I have such a deep desire for real love... that sometimes that desire is truly blinding.
从十五岁到三十几岁,在《NANA》这部作品里找到了人生中每个时期的慰籍与领悟。《NANA》里的故事与人就像是一面镜子,我们都能在这里用旁观者的清澈眼睛,发现某部分的自己。十五岁的时候看觉得这是一部很酷很帅很精彩的爱情故事,十八岁的时候看从心中涌出一股想要改变自己的人生,也勇敢踏上逐梦之路的冲动,二十岁的时候看,在人物身上有了一些自我幻想的投射,想成为像大琦娜娜这样又帅又酷又坚强的女子,并且在心中暗暗告诉自己绝对不要成为小松奈奈这种软弱又游走在男人堆中间的女孩。而三十岁的时候再看,突然恍然大悟,原来外表坚强的娜娜才是整部作品里面最脆弱的,而外表柔弱的奈奈才是在人生的成长中逐渐获得了坚强的那个人。
This is a confession that I have never thought that I would make: Thing about NANA is about pure experience in life. I watched this anime two times. First time I watched NANA, I was just a high school girl with no emotional experience, but I loved the story and characters. And few years have passed, I watched NANA again and I stopped judging those characters. I don’t hate anyone, I don’t blame Shouji, Sachiko, Nobu, Junko, Takumi, Hachi or anyone for anything. I connected to those characters, because I personally have experienced similar things in those few years that have passed from watching NANA for the first time. And I, myself, am similar to both Junko and Nana, have cried that second time I’ve watched this anime.
大三那年吧 看了nana。买了漫画书。nana使我的思维的转折点。那个故事里我讨厌不起来任何人。我心疼着任何人。我沉浸在nana的故事中久久不能走出。我不敢再看第二遍。我不敢听到奈奈每每开头的那句娜娜你知道么? 这让我的心揪着的疼。六七年了吧 距离那年的大三时光。现在的我更是听到nana的每一首歌都完全陷入那无可奈何的悲伤中。
I watched Nana about 16 years ago, when the manga was still on going. I was only about 13/14 and it did absolutely break me. The characters hurt me so deeply, like they were my best friends making mistakes that were hurting them and it was so hard to watch. This is also why it is the anime/manga that has stayed with me the most. When I see pictures of the characters, or listen to someone speak about it, I get this chill down my spine that has never happened with any other media I have consumed.
再來說角色,我一般是很少看少女漫畫的,最不能忍受的,就是少女漫畫中描述的男性往往和真實世界相差實在太遠... 但是Nana的成功,有很大一部分是矢澤愛真的掌握住男性的想法以及關係中殘酷的一面。說實在我是很不喜歡小八這類型的女生... 我認為她的最大問題就在,她很少想過她的伴侶需要什麼,只為自己想像中的愛情不斷付出... 很多人很責怪章司劈腿事件,當然除了章司意志不堅又優柔寡斷,實際上他會離開小八根本就是理所當然的事... 由於以前混過這圈子,所以幾乎其心理都非常熟悉,這也是我覺得作者利害的地方,能一點不差的描寫他們... 總之,這是一個塑造人物非常成功的故事,結局不見得會完美,但是真實人生何嚐不是如此
I had become so engrossed in the world that writer and artist Ai Yazawa created, it became something more to me than ‘just a manga’ or ‘just a show’. I didn’t think I would share those feelings with anyone else... I wanted him to validate my feelings about things I loved. I’d never gotten his approval about anything and I craved so much attention from him... So, I lent him my collection like he had with his Daredevil issues years ago. I was nervous. Would he like it? Would it just be some ‘dumb’ thing that his daughter was into that he’d never understand? I had such a connection with Nana that if he didn’t like it, it would probably have felt like a personal attack... We spent hours talking about Nana and Hachi’s friendship, how much we hated Takumi and the genius of Ai Yazawa... What Nana did that Frank Miller’s Daredevil run and other comics couldn’t was what I really wanted – to have a relationship with my father, for him to be more of a dad than a friend. Conversations we had after that first one didn’t just revolve around things that he enjoyed. He wanted to learn more about me and what I was interested in. Off the back of the emotional ride of Nana, it urged him to be more open with his feelings, to understand how growing up without his love or attention felt... The most important thing I got out of it? I found not just a friend, but a dad — my dad.
這部探討人性、人生價值、自我、感情、夢想的動漫,深深影響自己不少,特別是人生觀。雖是少女漫畫卻很多地方不那麼夢幻,甚至像發生在現實生活周遭的真實事件。顛覆一般羅曼蒂克、充滿粉紅泡泡的既定印象。國小身為電視兒童,初次看到電視播放《NANA》看不懂在演什麼。第二次看是國中時,覺得大崎娜娜在舞台上唱歌的模樣很帥氣有魅力,想成為想娜娜帥氣有個性、做自己且獨立的人。第三次看是高中,第一次深入瞭解劇情,體會到生為而人的掙扎與執著矛盾。每個人是獨立個體、即便在一起也有無法消除的寂寞、痛苦及陰暗面。第四第五次第六次看,隨著年齡增長每次看都有不同的體悟感受。... 以前想著:絕不能像奈奈想找感情寄託,想法不成熟又對工作不上心懶散;嚮往憧憬成為像娜娜,能獨立自主獨當一面。但對很多事隔層保護色跟距離感。實際上是偽裝自己的脆弱,沉默不想再受到傷害。現在羨慕奈奈的有話直說,溫柔包容不計較對錯,心胸像海綿一樣能收放自如。從一次次的挫敗中成長,蛻變成不是以前不成熟的模樣。某方面來說奈奈是比娜娜更堅強更能依賴的。
NANA虽然不是接触的最早的,但却是影响我最深的动漫。刚开始看了两集就感觉触到了某根心弦,推荐那时的男友看,但他表示一点也看不下去,甚至认为OP和ED很怪异。当时的我不懂事,只知道把自己认为的最好强硬塞给他人,至于对方接不接受,从来不曾考虑,以至于后来两人之间出现了不可弥补的裂缝都没有发觉。... 很长一段时间里我都无法原谅章司和幸子,一个薄情,一个小三,背叛也许是最难以释怀的,因为还不够成熟。但正是由于这两个人,才让奈奈邂逅了更多,变得更加坚强。再后来才发觉,原来这个世界背叛每天都在上演,而我们能做的仅是在面对背叛时潇洒地转身离开,变得勇敢,像奈奈那样。... 很多年以后,我遇到了能够认真聆听我的人,我与他一同看NANA,我以为这回终于有人可以一起讨论剧情和感想,但我发现自己还是错了。有些事,有些感触,只有你自己能够体会,你无法同他解释你的感受你的心情以及你想与他分享的一切... 再然后,我不再妄想与他人一同分享NANA。对于这个世界而言,你只是你,只有一个你。
NANA,世上的另一个我。回溯到十五六岁,最憧憬的未来的自己,是像娜娜一样果决独立,耀眼的容貌,天赐的才华,活泼、稳重的同伴兼而有之,与恋人之间怎么斩都斩不断的羁绊... 而奈奈,这只忠犬八公,实在太真实了。观影以及补漫画的过程中,心理上完全是惊涛骇浪的,因为追寻着奈奈的足迹,随着阿八的经历渐趋丰富,越来越看到真实的自己被还原。... 奈奈很真实。小虚荣,小懒惰,小花痴,她都有。... 奈奈很勇敢。从浅野开始,她就一直不停受挫,却仍在这条鲜花与鲜血并驾齐驱的寻爱大道上,马不停蹄。过了一定的年龄阶段,还在脑子里爱来爱去的,未免懦弱和看不清现实,但其实,人是这么一种生物,一方面越长大越世故,一方面,越老越天真,对那种原始勇气的向往之情,便益发浓烈了起来。
The thing to understand was I was raised in the era of “not like other girls.”... Nana was who we wanted to be, us young not-like-other-girls who first read NANA. Fast forward many years... And you read it enough times to realize… Nana Osaki the girl 13 year old you wanted to be? You were her, you were always her. You may not have dressed in vintage Vivienne Westwood, sing, or have a tattoo and piercings but you were her in all the ways that mattered. Because just like you, Nana was just a scared little girl who wanted to be loved and was scared of rejection.
わたしが初めてNANAを読んだのは14歳の時で、当時はそのドロドロすら輝いて見えた。NANAが無ければバンド組むこともなかっただろうし、わたしは紫闇になっていなかったと思う。産まれてくる子供が親を選べないように、不可逆で運命的な出会い。だから思い出補正は正直多分にある。この感覚は、大人になってからNANAに出会った人とはきっと共有し得ない。... たぶんNANAの影響で若い頃泥沼な恋愛にハマっちゃった人って大勢いると思うんだけど、反面教師にして自分を律することができた人も相当数いるんじゃないかなって思ってる。いろんな意味で、人生変える力を持った作品だと思う。
矢沢先生、ありがとうございます